i make mine. knock off of a gene davis or stinger point. i use spring wire 2 real short and 2 regular length. nothing against the chisel type points or hinged type. but seems for me anyway if the lake is super clear and you got a 3 foot or deeper shot the chisel point and hinged type have a mind of there own after 2 feet. they may veer right, left, up or down. that's just me now i could have carp fever at that depth i don't know. not trying to start any arguments.