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I have 6-7 fiberglass arrows that an archery shop set me up with "glued on" Cajun archery stinger tips. I have lost multiple fish due to the barb bending back due to force not tip spin.

I would like to go to a better tip, any suggestions?
Must be:
1.Used for both Carp and Gar.
2. Easy fish removal
3. Strong for multiple bottoms ( rock, mud..)
4. Not glued on for replacement

Thanks for the input.
 

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I used to shoot those with no problem. I just didn't like in screwing the tip all the way. I also found you had to really smack those fish with those tips. I went with ams. Sure shot or gar point
 

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Can't go wrong with muzzy carp tips IMHO.
 

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I bought the Muzzy tips, not bad. I like they the barbs have not bent after multiple fish and misses. I have lost 4 fish in the last 5 trips out since Friday night. But I guess that can happen... Thanks for the input.
 

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Yeah i found in the warmer weather the fish are "softer" and the arrow rips out easier. But when it comes down to it, shot placement is key. It doesnt matter what kind of arrow or poundage you shoot if you dont hit a soild spot. As a boat we usually loose a couple fish a night. alot of times its at the side of the boat. they fall off when bringing them in the boat or they swim into the boat and knock the arrow out
 

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We usually loose 1 or every 10 fish. Most of the time, it's due to a gut or tail shot. On big fish (20+lbs) we always try to double stick them. I've also heard that bending the barbs on the muzzy tips so they they are about 1/4 from the shaft helps with loosing fish. Supposedly due to a smaller entry hole. I haven't personally tried it yet, but I will next season.
 

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I think that also depends on the poundage of your bow. just a thought but if you can punch just as deep with wider barbs it seems like they should hold better. just my thoughts.
 

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I don't have a gauge, but it is heavier than another bow with a known draw weight of 50#. I think I have plenty of kinetic energy, just had a few solid hits and before I could start cranking they were gone. I mean hit where the water explodes, the arrow flutters with their movement kinda hits. I learned early this summer, don't "horse" em in, especially the bigger ones. Haha
 

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When we shoot a big one we chase it down and stick it again before we even think about pulling that line. They will take out the whole bottle if you got a slow motor, lol.hmm that seems weird I would think your problem would be shooting through the fish then getting your arrow back. I use the loop method just in case I shoot through. But I doubt I will only 45 lbs. I never full draw unless it's big. Can you see where you hit them? Belly shots often rip out. I try to head shot or in the back along the spine. But we are mostly shooting straight down on em too
 

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I think that also depends on the poundage of your bow. just a thought but if you can punch just as deep with wider barbs it seems like they should hold better. just my thoughts.
I thought the same. But I've had a few guys at tournaments tell me that this year. So I'm gonna try it next spring.
 

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I don't have a gauge, but it is heavier than another bow with a known draw weight of 50#. I think I have plenty of kinetic energy, just had a few solid hits and before I could start cranking they were gone. I mean hit where the water explodes, the arrow flutters with their movement kinda hits. I learned early this summer, don't "horse" em in, especially the bigger ones. Haha
I pull 35-40 lbs and always get the tip through. But I'm in less than 3' of water and shots within 10yards.
Pull offs happen, it's just part of the game. Double shoot anything that looks iffy if you have someone else shooting.
Try your hardest to keep the fish away from the side/bottom of the boat.
Either gaff or gill the big fish.
If you pull them up by the arrow, grab in the middle of the shaft and turn the arrow a little past horizontal so the fish slides up to your hand before pulling it out of the water. That keeps the stress of the barbs.
And once the tips start getting warn and loose, replace them with fresh ones.
 

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Most of the shots I take are in 18" of water or less, less than 10 yards. We do back each other up, just I hunt alone some too. I am learning every day.
 

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Most of the shots I take are in 18" of water or less, less than 10 yards. We do back each other up, just I hunt alone some too. I am learning every day.
There are a lot of different tricks that you'll pick up to get more fish in the boat. I'm always trying different things...sometimes they pay of, and sometimes they waste time.
 

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I don't do any squeezing on mine. I shoot em how they ship em.
That's how I've always done it. But I was told by more than one person that with the barbs bend almost to the shaft will hold fish even with gut shots.
 

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We will find out in 6 months. :)
 

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I use the Muzzy tips. I do drill a hole through the tip and the shaft and glue a set pin in it. Never lost a tip, only had to replace the front tip once cause the rocks gave it a shape the file could correct.
 
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